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Consciousness to Music to Conservation - aiming at truth, rather than victory; embracing the liminal space; a wide-ranging conversational style podcast in Hawai'i produced by host and musician Abe Vandenberg

Conversations about: Ayahuasca, EMR, Human Origins, Immigration Law, Mysticism, Ancient Egypt, Consciousness, Cave Art, and [original music: saxophone electric ukulele guitar groove grunge]

Oct 2, 2019

Robert Foss is the Director of Immigration Legal Services Division at the International Institute of Los Angeles.  

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"Well I think in general, it's interesting to parse the word ecstasis, ecstacy. And ecstasis to stand outside oneself. So it's a kind of, it's an altered state of consciousness, it's a kind of transcendence...but it's also a connection, some sort of realization that on some deep level, one is not alone." /11:37

Supreme Court Cases Referenced

The Cherokee Cases were a trio of cases before the Marshall Court

 

United States v. Schooner Amistad, 40 U.S. (15 Pet.) 518 (1841).

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857)

In re Ah Fong, 1 F. Cas. 213, 216 (1874) ("we cannot shut our eyes to the fact that much of what was formerly said upon the power of the state in this respect, grew out of the necessity which the southern states, in which the institution of slavery existed, felt of excluding free negroes from their limits.").

Fong Yue Ting v. United States, 149 U.S. 698 (1893)

Plessy v. Ferguson, 163 U.S. 537 (1896)

Korematsu v. United States, 323 U.S. 214 (1944)

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